“I thoroughly enjoyed my time on the show. The platform is an awesome way to engage the community and I am hoping that the information I presented touched people in ways that helped them expand their views on racism and anti-Blackness. Also, working with you and Jon was a great experience.”

Leader, Speaker, and Innovator

“A great groundbreaking show that supports and educates.”

Empress International

“BSOTC provided an outlet for students to be highlighted in the community while they were in the San Francisco State Step to College class as a result they were praised and uplifted by their peers and parents to go on to do Sunday shows and Thursday shows. This was a great way of engagement for the youth in the program.”

San Francisco State University

“I am very proud of both sides of the conversation, it’s very educational to learn information that we weren’t privy to. The questions are asked and answered, the community is highlighted all over San Francisco and the black and brown communities collaborate. He’s there to show support and inform the community about hidden gems. This is a resource we didn’t know we needed but definitely need to support.”

Our Special PLace African-American Early Educators

“Both Sides of The Conversation is a media outlet for the underprivileged community. They have consistently spread the word and shared services throughout the Bay Area. Having the opportunity to document this journey of change in my own community is so special. It is an honor to be a part of that history.”

Oakland, CA